The working class festers versus the slightly higher paid working class festers. Did anyone see if they tackled this subject on the debate tonight? I missed it.

I'm not going to get into a prolonged argument about it, so this is the last I will say on the matter, especially as it's going very much off topic. I just think it's important to make a couple of points, in case anyone who hadn't seen The Dwarves before was thinking of going to see them but got put off from your comments.

Firstly, as I mentioned before the lyrics are quite obviously not written as a guide for how to live your life. If the bands persona doesn't come across on record, it certainly will if you watch them live or read interviews. I have seen them a few times and each time there has been a disproportionately high number of females in the audience compared to other punk shows. I have never witnessed anyone feeling uncomfortable or acting like a dick towards others and (needless to say) I'm sure nothing like this will happen at their Fest show

I noticed when they were announced, Ryan from Off With Their Heads and Franz Nicolay both tweeted about being excited to see them on the Fest line-up. Todd Congelliere has released Dwarves records on his record label, as has Mike Park - 2 people who I'm sure wouldn't go anywhere near a band they considered to be sexist. Bands like Naked Raygun, Bouncing Souls, Dan Vapid etc... have all toured with The Dwarves.

I think we can agree that not everybody is going to like them and they obviously do offend a fair few people but it's not as if they are in anyway alienated from The Fest scene. If you are really going to criticise the Fest organizers for putting them on & people for going to see them, then you might want to take a look at some of the bands you will be watching next weekend and see how many of them have toured with, helped out, covered songs by, or are just simply fans of the band. I think you'll be surprised.

I love the dwarves and I'm definitely not sexist. I can prove it; I'm even friends with some women.

but do you have binders full of them?

hey-oh!

Rene, what in the hell is a woman? You guys are confusing the shit out of me.

i know, with all this sex equality stuff now i don't know if i have a girlfriend or boyfriend

I'm gender blind

Okay.... my thoughts on this:

1. The Dwarves fucking rule! I don't care who you are. One of the best punk bands ever. Blag Dahlia wrote "Do The Sponge" for Spongebob Squarepants for Christ's sake!

2. The "don't get dinosaur bands" is dumb idea. A majority of them are the main draw for Fest. Hence, cash flow.

3. You know what people would benefit the most from these passes? People coming from outside the U.S. They deserve it the most.

4. If this means helping out Tony so that way he and the others that put this on get paid, that's fine with me. Remember, Tony once said that when Fest finally becomes unprofitable, as in they' take a loss in money, it'll be the last Fest. So enjoy this one, kids. This could be the last one then.

5. If there's any left at registration, I'm totally buying one. I don't care. I might not be able to use it, but it helps the Fest organizers out.

I kind of hate to keep this thread veer going, but I'm asking an honest question here, and am truly curious to hear your point of view _ellison. Do you know Masked Intruder (playing Durty Nelly's on Sunday)? If so, is your opinion of that band the same as your view of The Dwarves? I'm not familiar with The Dwarves material at all, so I don't have a horse in that race, but would be interested on your take on Masked Intruder based on your Dwarves comments.

Thank you in advance,

jeremy

I'm a progressive which means I support death panels for grandma & grandpa if it means more money left over for for my communist agenda (which includes destroying America, interracial dancing, & the #666). I mistook the message board with my spot on Obama's Death panel.

Is it just me or does pastor Terry Jones look like a skinny version of Paul Sr from American Chopper?

This thread is ruining my Fest. Also, most of the posters in this thread are probably the reason why I kind of dislike Fest now. I wish we could go back to having fun and not being uptight anuses about everything.

Dude I just had the best turkey swiss sandwich on rye bread ever. Shit was so amazing.

This is supposedly also generating some controversy:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=AIXUgtNC4Kc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DAIXUgtNC4Kc

Fest last year was one of the most positive weeks of my life, no room for negitivity, lets party!