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< Misc. ~ Tom Gabel of Against Me! Comes Out as Transgender: Read more |
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fatkitty420
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 9:53 am |
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From Rolling Stone:Quote: Against Me! singer Tom Gabel reveals plans to begin living as a woman in the new issue of Rolling Stone. Gabel, who has dealt privately with gender dysphoria for years, will soon begin the process of transition, by taking hormones and undergoing electrolysis treatments. Gabel will eventually take the name Laura Jane Grace, and will remain married to her wife Heather. "For me, the most terrifying thing about this was how she would accept the news," says Gabel. "But she's been super-amazing and understanding." Gabel only told a handful of family and friends about her plan to transition before talking to Rolling Stone. Because this is the first time a major rock star has come out as transgender, the singer made a point of speaking openly about it. "I'm going to have embarrassing moments," says Gabel, "and that won't be fun. But that's part of what talking to you is about – is hoping people will understand, and hoping they'll be fairly kind." The full story of Gabel's transformation is in the latest issue, on newsstands this Friday (May 11th). In it, the singer tells Josh Eells about her history of gender dysphoria, the specifics of the transition process and what becoming Laura Jane Grace will mean for the future of Against Me! Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... z1uNtcLUVI
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JaySongz
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 10:57 am |
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I first heard about this last night. Good for her. I look forward to next month when AM! is playing here in Orlando I'm quite curious how her change may affect the sound of AM. Regardless i'll support one of my favorite bands. It's a shame that they wont be coming to Fest.
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Baker
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:38 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2011 4:36 pmPosts: 184Location: Fuckneckville, NC
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i just found out about this, and honestly i dont know what to think about it, im interested to see his/her future in music, hormone therapy will def. change his voice, but good for him, he is filling the ocean in his soul...
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fatkitty420
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:44 pm |
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Taking feminizing hormones (estrogen, progesterone, testosterone blockers etc) doesn't change your voice; it only prevents the changes that testosterone causes at puberty if they haven't happened yet. (Clearly not the case with Gabel.) Trans women that sound more "female," speaking/singing in a higher-pitched range, etc. do so in nearly every case by practicing.
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_ellison
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:34 pm |
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fatkitty420 wrote: Taking feminizing hormones (estrogen, progesterone, testosterone blockers etc) doesn't change your voice; it only prevents the changes that testosterone causes at puberty if they haven't happened yet. (Clearly not the case with Gabel.) Trans women that sound more "female," speaking/singing in a higher-pitched range, etc. do so in nearly every case by practicing. Good to know. I think this would be a super rad time for someone familiar with the trans* community to drop some knowledge about how to refer to Laura/Tom from now on. I'm assuming the preferred pronoun is "she," but I have no idea when we should start calling her Laura. Anyone know any better?
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Jeremy Garrett
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:58 pm |
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This reminds me of when Keith Caputo of Life of Agony came out as a woman. And just like I said about him, I wish Tom/Laura all the best...
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karltun
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:54 am |
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Joined: Sun May 01, 2011 11:23 amPosts: 117Location: gainesville
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hes going to make a hot woman. i dont give a fuck. itll make AM that much better.
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sour grapes
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:24 am |
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Good for him, life's too short to not be yourself.
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MR.PLANTE
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:25 pm |
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Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:42 pmPosts: 126Location: St Pete, FL
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_ellison wrote: fatkitty420 wrote: Taking feminizing hormones (estrogen, progesterone, testosterone blockers etc) doesn't change your voice; it only prevents the changes that testosterone causes at puberty if they haven't happened yet. (Clearly not the case with Gabel.) Trans women that sound more "female," speaking/singing in a higher-pitched range, etc. do so in nearly every case by practicing. Good to know. I think this would be a super rad time for someone familiar with the trans* community to drop some knowledge about how to refer to Laura/Tom from now on. I'm assuming the preferred pronoun is "she," but I have no idea when we should start calling her Laura. Anyone know any better? tl;dr: Refer to Laura as you would any other female. Also, this is really good for the transgender community since it brings issues like this to light. Rant version: Always use female pronouns when referring to her, and she'd probably prefer to be referred to as Laura since that's what she's going to be legally changing her name to. Then again, changing your name as a celebrity is always tough since your fanbase is already familiar to calling you by your old name (which is why most famous women either don't change their last name when they marry or they hyphenate it). So she probably won't be offended if people refer to her as Tom or Tommy, but I can't speak for her. The tricky part comes in when talking about Laura BEFORE she let the public into the picture. A friend of mine transitioned mtf a short while ago, coinciding with her band breaking up. A zine was written documenting the band's journey and whenever referring to Madison before transitioning she was referred to as Matt and masculine pronouns were used. But when in doubt, I'd just refer to transgender people with their current gender of pronoun (in Laura's case: feminine). I haven't read the Rolling Stones article yet, but I'm looking forward to it. Should be quite insightful. EDIT: I just read the article and I was right... quite insightful and interesting. Go pick up a copy of it and read it for yourself.
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FreelanceRomantic
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:31 pm |
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Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:30 amPosts: 103Location: New York City
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Is the article online anywhere?
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Baker
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:55 pm |
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FreelanceRomantic wrote: Is the article online anywhere? top of the page, bottom of the post. or, you can google tom gabel, its on most sites ive seen now.
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MR.PLANTE
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:50 am |
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FreelanceRomantic wrote: Is the article online anywhere? I actually bought it, and encourage other people to do the same, but here's a scan of it my friend found online: http://imgur.com/a/hydSB
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_ellison
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 5:24 pm |
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After reading a bunch of RS pieces over the years, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of this one. Usually they're all about scandal and vice and pushing the envelope– but I think they did an excellent job at telling Laura's story. Granted, I don't see how you could get much more dramatic than the leader of one of the biggest bands in one of music's bro-iest scenes coming out as a mtf transsexual.
I cannot properly communicate how stoked I am that one of punk's biggest bands is now fronted by a "chick." YAY FOR FIERCE PUNK LADIES!!
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