I was fairly certain your personal choice to be a woman was based on higher salaries.

Or maybe I am thinking of your fascination for porcupines. Same issue, really.

Did anyone encounter a bad cop at the Fest 10, outside of those folks ticketed for open containers after being repeatedly warned? The ones I saw were keeping cars from running over kids decked out in all black.

That said, I have met a few power tripping goons in my time, but not recently.

Holy fuck. I couldn't have trolled this hard on purpose.

Marbs, quit being so sexist. Men can wear lacy things if they choose.
On a real note though, I would have changed the pronoun in what I said to the appropriate gender for whomever I was talking about. Stop patronizing women by jumping to their defense at the first sign of anything that even remotely seems like an untoward remark. Women are perfectly capable of standing up for themselves.

No, it was just a lucky coincidence. And the porcupine thing was just a phase. I am totally into marmosets now.



FYP.

And as far as police officers go, I was in no way implying that all police officers are bad. I was just pointing out the fact that the profession is worthy of criticism. I do see it as nearsighted when bands do not use specific events to illustrate their frustration with police officers, but I do not at all see it as hypocrisy when they justifiably rail against racism, sexism, and homophobia. The critique of cops is based on specific incidents of excessive force met with little disciplinary action. This is an issue with protecting your own at the expense judicial fairness. It is an institutional problem and as such the entire institution deserves criticism.

Racism, sexism, and homophobia are signs of poor character that should never be tolerated. Ever.



I am not surprised that this sentiment came from a Texan.

Jon

nobody said that... i said prove that ALL comedians who talk about race and make jokes based on it are racist.

Carlos Mencia is a horrible comedian - but go ahead and make the case that he's racist against mexicans because he tells jokes about them. Richard Pryor must have been racist too.

My mistake. I edited my post.

As far as Carlos Mencia goes:
Asians
Women
Muslims and homosexuals

It has nothing to do with him making fun of Mexicans.

Jon

Bottom line: no one should be persecuted for being racy or sexy, whatever their species.
Up the turnips!

Cops bad, dressing like cops good.

Not racist at all, but when I do my laundry today, I am going to hang them dry for sure! Also, do you think that there is anything that I can work out with HWM in order to like get a new hoodie (I can ship mine back to them if nesessary) or something like that? I'm still bummed about it, but I also tend to complain more than a little 5 year old girl sometimes haha

I will talk to Jason and find out where the merch is. If it is in town and accessible I will figure something out. What size and design was it?

Jon

i was gonna say something but i rather not, people can get offended around here pretty easily, now let's change the subject and talk about the shirts

A discussion about sexism in a thread about laundry.

Wasn't implying that the average cop you pass by on the street is going to be a power hungry goon. I'm more talking about when it comes to things i.e. Occupy Wall Street, and whatnot, and shit, if you heard some of the racist/mongering crap that comes out of my police-officer cousins' mouths, you'd think they ALL have some kind of complex. They weren't like that prior to joining the police force. Same goes for a friend of my brother's that he grew up with after joining the NYPD after college.

That being said, I've never had an issue with Gainesville police aside from Fest 8 and 9 where I got stopped, multiple times, checked and almost ticketed for drinking ROOT BEER and SODA while walking down the street. As in the effect of when I said "Don't worry, it's only soda" they literally had to smell/taste the bottles to "make sure". It's happened to me here too. I understand sometimes people sneak alcohol in certain ways but this happened to me multiple times during Fests 8 and 9. This year I flat out chose not to even drink soda on the street so I wouldn't deal with that again.

*No, I'm not really complaining about "hating cops" because I got nearly ticketed for drinking soda. I'm just saying that most of them aren't even nice about it when you tell them. I'd rather not have a bunch of police officers try and taste my root beer every step I go to make sure it is indeed only soda, so if I asked nicely for them to not do that, I'd like to see that happen.

I understand if they're dealing with this then yes, take extra precautions, and in the grand scheme this is nothing compared to what's been going on at Wall Street. I'm not some "fuck I'm so punk I hate cops" type; I just can understand WHY someone would make a statement like it.

*Slow clap*

but really. This, and all of this, spot on.

you wernt almost ticketed for root beer, c'mon dude.. these examples make me think your threshold for harassment is pretty low. as far as understanding viewpoints... i understand lots of viewpoints.. doesnt make them valid and you wont find me endorsing them. anyway, just figured i'd go all un-punk / un-PC on everyone for a little bit.

i love all of you in this thread. but only in this thread. see you at the next Fest.