See, thats kinda what I want to happen, (putting a lot of the same kind of bands together in a row) because then you don't have to run around, and you def don't have the situation where all but one of the similar bands you wantto see is playing in one venue, making you decided between missing that one to guarantee you'll see the rest, or risking leaving to see the one band in the other venue and not get back into the place you started (or not even get in to see the band you left for!)

gahh, this hurts my head.

age is catching up to you friend! i know i caught a lot of bands (over 50....possibly over 60) in Fests 4-7 and with Fest 8 i was lucky if i saw 50 tops. I never had much of a problem running around and kind of enjoyed the added chaos. survival of the festest.

it's not possible to keep having so many bands and the same size venues and expect their fanbases not to grow. if they're going to use the same venues, they're going to have to accomodate bands like AJJ, BTMI!, O Pioneers, the measure (SA), lemuria, cheap girls, good luck, dopamines that are going to have more fans with each coming year.

I like having all of the same types of bands playing one show at one venue- it makes it more like an actual "show," instead of just the typical sort of robotic time slots you see at most festivals. Laziness has never caused me to want to stay at a particular venue, but getting caught up in the vibe there certainly has.

Plus, it ultimately optimizes freedom of choice for the most people: if you want to camp out somewhere and see a rack of bands who are right up your alley, and party with some of the same people all day, then you can do that. If you choose to venue-surf and enjoy the diversity of coherently scheduled shows, you can do that, too, as long as you are aware of the risks of getting shut out.

At the end of the day, I'd be more pissed about trying to run between four different venues to catch my favorite hardcore bands than I would about any shut-outs resulting from my musical ADHD.

I think it still makes sense to have bands that have kind of the same style together... even if I like to change venues, its nice to hang around a venue for 2-3 bands and then there are also bands I can't miss and were i need to be early in the venue - so of course its great when simular bands play before

really a tough thing, but if they really get the new venue that would be bigger than CG - I think that would already solve a lot of problems

Having bands of the same style play all at one venue is a little bit more of an academic question for me, since I tend to NOT like many bands that usually share a fanbase with the few bands I do love.

Especially with the hardcore shows. Next to "no idea style gruff voice bearded punk" (or whatever you want to call that subgenre), my favorite style of punk are the hardcore bands. But I hate 99% of hardcore bands. I don't go to any of the big hardcore fests because over two or three days, there's usually only 3 or 4 bands I want to see.

Anyway, I'm getting off topic. Having similar bands play at one venue makes more sense for the most part. Fewer schedule conflicts. But you do have to make some accommodations for the bigger drawing bands. I would say maybe have the most popular band play FIRST, so then the people who just want to see that band will clear out and leave room for everyone else.

Seriously, I think I just had a stroke of genius. The only problem with that would be venues that are slow to let people in at the beginning of the day (especially The Venue, but that place never gets full)

So yeah, for 1982, The Atlantic, and CG, have the BIGGEST bands play FIRST.

oh yeah, and there really need to be more shows at Market St. The past two years, they didn't have any shows there on Friday.

And of course, bringing back a bigger venue. Abbey Road would be perfect, but I guess that is out of the hands of The Fest, since it seems like nothing happens there during the rest of the year either.

haha, that and the memories of limping around Fest 6 because my feet were sweating like crazy and all the to-and-froing was giving me massive blisters. I just wanna plant in 1-2 venues per day and drink, fuck it

Never had any problems getting into Common Grounds for my previous 3 Fests but maybe I just got lucky with times I wanted to see certain bands there. I walked straight in last year around 5pm on the Saturday.
I've spent more or less the whole day there at previous Fests and showed up at doors opening and got straight in.
There's no excuse to queue at Fest as there's always something else to watch. In 2008 I couldn't be bothered to queue for 5 minutes to see The Lawrence Arms so stumbled into Market Street for The Flatliners, Polar Bear Club, The Riot Before.
That's what's so great about Fest!!

Market Street was nuts busy for Comadre and Ampere last year, to the point that we gave up queuing after moving no distance for ages. Still, we caught Daniel Striped Tiger at the Atlantic instead, so it could've been a lot worse.

are you serious? when I came at 2.30 and 6.30 the line was unbelievable.. till the end of the parking lot

I didn't have problems to get in Fest 7 friday for Virgins & Ringers and as well last year sunday for tim version.. but last year saturday was nuts

Sorry!! Just looked at my photo's and seems I got my Saturday's mixed up with my Sundays!! Understandable at Fest I reckon!! Still get in early doors at CG's and you'll have no problems I reckon!!

This made me laugh so hard! I like this saying alot!

really, at the smaller venues, have the biggest bands play first.

Then after they are done, you don't have their fans clogging up the place waiting for them, and people can get in to see the other bands.

This would make for some really shitty shows for lesser-known bands.

maybe... but people would come earlier to the shows, now it seems some start their day later...

and maybe the following doesn't help avoiding lines, but making it possible to see more cooler smaller bands -I felt especially alst year, some "styles" could be better mixed over the days..

like friday: great bands at Durty nellys (arms a lof, too many daves,..) the atlantic (menzingers, riot before , nothington..), the venue ( wilhelm scream, american steel) and also later on 1982 (Spanish gamble, crime in stereo) and rum runners earlier (turkish techno, safty..) were all interesting for me and I think the same direction

same first half of saturday common grounds (dear landlord, bannerpilot), market street pub (flatliners, gatorface, static radio, ringers, monikers,...), the venue (red city radio, how dare you, dead to me) and rum runners (american armada, captain we are sinking, madison bloodbath) also are attract a lot of the same people...

but it totally slowed down for me saturday night and the same on sunday - except the beginning with broadway call, OWTH and the end... some more (even small) bands of the "style" of the mentioned above on saturday night/ sunday afternoon would have had me and guest...

I know you have to put certain bands same stlye against each other to avoid lines.. but f.e. having the friday durty nellys line up on sunday there would have been perfect for me (and probably a lot of others as well).. or habing the great bands that played rum runners (turkish techno , american armada and so on) on suday would have given them a probably bigger audience as well, as they wouldn't have competed with bigger bands same style