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greg graffins sex face
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:04 am |
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Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:16 amPosts: 624Location: Western Australia
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blogs are for lazy quitters, do a zine!
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Some_Kind_of_Robot
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:20 am |
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Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:21 pmPosts: 635Location: Second City, USA!
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greg graffins sex face wrote: blogs are for lazy quitters, do a zine! 
Fuck yeah!
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GatoRanch
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:24 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:16 amPosts: 4092Location: Nature Coast & Gville, FL
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greg graffins sex face wrote: blogs are for lazy quitters, do a zine! 
Blogs are more interactive. And for people that like feedback (like Philip). Zines (that aren't eZines) kinda leave you hanging. Like "hey wonder if anyone read my zine?", if you didn't actually get people mailing you. So yeah, blogs are a lazier version of a zine in a sense. Because you can reply/comment right away... and don't have to snail mail a reply like a hardcopy zine. I once had dozens of pen pals, it became a disappointment. I think a zine would be like that for me too. That's why I blog instead.
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greg graffins sex face
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:43 am |
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Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:16 amPosts: 624Location: Western Australia
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GatoRanch wrote: greg graffins sex face wrote: blogs are for lazy quitters, do a zine!  Blogs are more interactive. And for people that like feedback (like Philip). Zines (that aren't eZines) kinda leave you hanging. Like "hey wonder if anyone read my zine?", if you didn't actually get people mailing you.
Firstly, 'e-zines/webzines' dont exist. you either write a zine or run a website. sorry. secondly, i hear back all the time from people who read my zine. they email, review it in their zine, send me messages in the post, so you're just wrong. wrong wrong wrong.
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Some_Kind_of_Robot
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:04 am |
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Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:21 pmPosts: 635Location: Second City, USA!
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greg graffins sex face wrote: GatoRanch wrote: greg graffins sex face wrote: blogs are for lazy quitters, do a zine!  Blogs are more interactive. And for people that like feedback (like Philip). Zines (that aren't eZines) kinda leave you hanging. Like "hey wonder if anyone read my zine?", if you didn't actually get people mailing you. Firstly, 'e-zines/webzines' dont exist. you either write a zine or run a website. sorry. secondly, i hear back all the time from people who read my zine. they email, review it in their zine, send me messages in the post, so you're just wrong. wrong wrong wrong.
As far as doing music reviews, the only benefit I see to a blog is immediacy, depending on laziness of course. Razorcake just did a review of East/West from Bridge and Tunnel and that shit came out MONTHS ago now. So, the ability to get your reviews up almost as soon as the record comes out is good.
I suppose theoretical distribution is better on the internets as well. More people (as in number of actual readers vs. possible interest) are going to see your blog than your zine.
But, honestly, if I was going to take the time to run a zine (which I probably will one of these days), I'd do a companion blog for reviews of albums/zines/movies/etc. and as a place to post some of the articles and stuff from the zine too. It just makes sense these days, and can post more interest for you actual zine, plus its a great place to get feedback.
I guess what I'm saying is...your both sorta right. Or, I'm possibly saying DO BOTH!
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GatoRanch
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:52 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:16 amPosts: 4092Location: Nature Coast & Gville, FL
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greg graffins sex face wrote: GatoRanch wrote: greg graffins sex face wrote: blogs are for lazy quitters, do a zine!  Blogs are more interactive. And for people that like feedback (like Philip). Zines (that aren't eZines) kinda leave you hanging. Like "hey wonder if anyone read my zine?", if you didn't actually get people mailing you. Firstly, 'e-zines/webzines' dont exist. you either write a zine or run a website. sorry. secondly, i hear back all the time from people who read my zine. they email, review it in their zine, send me messages in the post, so you're just wrong. wrong wrong wrong.
"if you didn't actually get people mailing you."
Just saying there isn't a cut and dry answer for all people. Your zine gets feedback? Awesome, congrats. Some don't.
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GatoRanch
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:53 pm |
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Some_Kind_of_Robot wrote: greg graffins sex face wrote: GatoRanch wrote: greg graffins sex face wrote: blogs are for lazy quitters, do a zine!  Blogs are more interactive. And for people that like feedback (like Philip). Zines (that aren't eZines) kinda leave you hanging. Like "hey wonder if anyone read my zine?", if you didn't actually get people mailing you. Firstly, 'e-zines/webzines' dont exist. you either write a zine or run a website. sorry. secondly, i hear back all the time from people who read my zine. they email, review it in their zine, send me messages in the post, so you're just wrong. wrong wrong wrong. As far as doing music reviews, the only benefit I see to a blog is immediacy, depending on laziness of course. Razorcake just did a review of East/West from Bridge and Tunnel and that shit came out MONTHS ago now. So, the ability to get your reviews up almost as soon as the record comes out is good. I suppose theoretical distribution is better on the internets as well. More people (as in number of actual readers vs. possible interest) are going to see your blog than your zine. But, honestly, if I was going to take the time to run a zine (which I probably will one of these days), I'd do a companion blog for reviews of albums/zines/movies/etc. and as a place to post some of the articles and stuff from the zine too. It just makes sense these days, and can post more interest for you actual zine, plus its a great place to get feedback. I guess what I'm saying is...your both sorta right. Or, I'm possibly saying DO BOTH!
Your reply is pretty much dead on what I was trying to say. Yes, do both for optimum feedback.
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GiveBlood
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:39 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:52 pmPosts: 2441Location: Gainesville, finally
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I would love to do a zine, but my goals for a zine would be different than my goals for a blog. Probably not really gonna do anything except work and school for a few more weeks, then maybe I'll try to start something between semesters, and see if I can balance it all together come January.
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GatoRanch
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:04 pm |
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GiveBlood wrote: I would love to do a zine, but my goals for a zine would be different than my goals for a blog. Probably not really gonna do anything except work and school for a few more weeks, then maybe I'll try to start something between semesters, and see if I can balance it all together come January.
Yeah, in the meantime you can keep a notebook of ideas/an outline of what you want to do.
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GiveBlood
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:28 pm |
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GatoRanch wrote: GiveBlood wrote: I would love to do a zine, but my goals for a zine would be different than my goals for a blog. Probably not really gonna do anything except work and school for a few more weeks, then maybe I'll try to start something between semesters, and see if I can balance it all together come January. Yeah, in the meantime you can keep a notebook of ideas/an outline of what you want to do. 
my filing system for idea/lyrics/sketches/recipes, etc, is a whole bunch of little scraps of paper, that I periodically stack up and put in a couple specific drawers/envolopes/folders. For some reason I can never make myself keep up with and consistently add/store material to anything with bound pages, even if it is just a spiral notebook. I hear a lot of beginning artists have this problem.
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Skatepunk36
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:34 pm |
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Joined: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:46 amPosts: 1052Location: Kreuzberg 36 / Berlin
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oh well, I'm running a online zine and I like its benefits, but I still enjoy a good paperzine as well.. for getting started it defintily easier to do it online and also you just have less work and can concentrate more on the content... I'm running mine now since 9 years and if we would have done a printed one, we already definitly would have stopped due to lack of motivation and time, but so its a lot easier..
looking forward to yours phillip...
P.S. Reviews in online zines can take long as well, I'm the best example
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kelly
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:06 am |
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By 'paper-zine' you mean real zine yeah? :p. I think instead of people going on about the benefits of an 'online zine' they should just be like 'hey thats awesome that you write a real zine and you're not a lazy bastard'. Just because an online one is the easy and lazier option doesn't mean it's any better. It's way more fun to pick up a zine randomly at a gig and read it on the way home than to be given a link to a website. They're just nice to actually hold and to keep. Like records vs mp3s in a way. The actual physical thing will always be more interesting. Any excuse to get away from my frigging computer screen is fine by me
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Some_Kind_of_Robot
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:07 pm |
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kelly wrote: By 'paper-zine' you mean real zine yeah? :p. I think instead of people going on about the benefits of an 'online zine' they should just be like 'hey thats awesome that you write a real zine and you're not a lazy bastard'. Just because an online one is the easy and lazier option doesn't mean it's any better. It's way more fun to pick up a zine randomly at a gig and read it on the way home than to be given a link to a website. They're just nice to actually hold and to keep. Like records vs mp3s in a way. The actual physical thing will always be more interesting. Any excuse to get away from my frigging computer screen is fine by me 
Ha. Word.
Though, honestly, I would hesitate to say that doing any kind of online publishing is the lazier option. That shit still takes time and forethought. Maybe not an all night stay at the local Kinko's, but still...
Speaking of zines, I should get to that collaboration some friends and I were talking about...I believe the first issue was said to include two articles by friend Kevin (see below) on making mixtapes and mosh rules...
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