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GiveBlood
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:51 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:52 pmPosts: 2441Location: Gainesville, finally
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Danny Dickhead wrote: (cough)Obama(cough)
Somebody was gonna say it, I just wanted to be the first.
I almost think it goes without saying.
But I am REALLY relieved that Hillary didn't get the nomination.
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gully
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:35 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:28 pmPosts: 2012Location: Massatwoshits
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I'll be the first to say it:
Please, don't vote.
Now I'm out of the cool kids club
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GiveBlood
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:16 pm |
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gully wrote: I'll be the first to say it: Please, don't vote. Now I'm out of the cool kids club 
anarchist, apathetic, republican, or just a joke?
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GatoRanch
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:03 am |
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Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:16 amPosts: 4092Location: Nature Coast & Gville, FL
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GiveBlood wrote: gully wrote: I'll be the first to say it: Please, don't vote. Now I'm out of the cool kids club  anarchist, apathetic, republican, or just a joke?
It was a sad joke. Sorry guys, when you grow up an realize that anarchy isn't so cool afterall, and the only way you can make a positive change for your life is to vote (rather than not voting). Yeah, I once didn't vote or voted a write-in name like "Snoopy" because I didn't like any of my options. And where did it get me? The worst president of all times, a never ending senseless war, and the highest gas prices ever. Think about it.
I hate talking politics amongst peers more than anything, but I felt that needed to be said. I'm not here to argue but rather to say something that is against the ignorance that too often seems to accompany the average punk rock mentality.
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gully
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:49 am |
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Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:28 pmPosts: 2012Location: Massatwoshits
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GatoRanch wrote: GiveBlood wrote: gully wrote: I'll be the first to say it: Please, don't vote. Now I'm out of the cool kids club  anarchist, apathetic, republican, or just a joke? It was a sad joke. Sorry guys, when you grow up an realize that anarchy isn't so cool afterall, and the only way you can make a positive change for your life is to vote (rather than not voting). Yeah, I once didn't vote or voted a write-in name like "Snoopy" because I didn't like any of my options. And where did it get me? The worst president of all times, a never ending senseless war, and the highest gas prices ever. Think about it. I hate talking politics amongst peers more than anything, but I felt that needed to be said. I'm not here to argue but rather to say something that is against the ignorance that too often seems to accompany the average punk rock mentality.
It's nice to be jaded I guess. I voted for John Kerry. And we can all see what I got. Ahhhh, the wonders of the electoral college. If I ever start caring about people who represent me but share none of my interests, I don't want to live anymore.
It really bothers me when I go on sites like these where "the punx" are supposed to be and I see negative criticism of other peoples opinions. Almost as if one's saying "how dare you think differently than I?!". So, I don't really need any of your "When You Grow Up" spiel. Elitism and the Fest don't go together. I guess what I'm saying is... if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't.
I like you Gato, don't be a jerk.
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GatoRanch
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:30 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:16 amPosts: 4092Location: Nature Coast & Gville, FL
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gully wrote: GatoRanch wrote: GiveBlood wrote: gully wrote: I'll be the first to say it: Please, don't vote. Now I'm out of the cool kids club  anarchist, apathetic, republican, or just a joke? It was a sad joke. Sorry guys, when you grow up an realize that anarchy isn't so cool afterall, and the only way you can make a positive change for your life is to vote (rather than not voting). Yeah, I once didn't vote or voted a write-in name like "Snoopy" because I didn't like any of my options. And where did it get me? The worst president of all times, a never ending senseless war, and the highest gas prices ever. Think about it. I hate talking politics amongst peers more than anything, but I felt that needed to be said. I'm not here to argue but rather to say something that is against the ignorance that too often seems to accompany the average punk rock mentality. It's nice to be jaded I guess. I voted for John Kerry. And we can all see what I got. Ahhhh, the wonders of the electoral college. If I ever start caring about people who represent me but share none of my interests, I don't want to live anymore. It really bothers me when I go on sites like these where "the punx" are supposed to be and I see negative criticism of other peoples opinions. Almost as if one's saying "how dare you think differently than I?!". So, I don't really need any of your "When You Grow Up" spiel. Elitism and the Fest don't go together. I guess what I'm saying is... if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't. I like you Gato, don't be a jerk.
Sorry Josh, this was not a personal attack on you, I apologize that it came across that way.
I voted for Kerry too and I'm just saying that not voting isn't going to help either. I feel like I made a mistake not voting all those years, and I'm here to admit that, as an "aging punk"...hehe
Just as you found my reply to be negative, I found your "don't vote" remark to be a negative approach. What kind of punk movement would it be to lay down and die and leave our rights in the hands of others, without even giving it our best shot?
A positive action on our part would be if all of the THOUSANDS of people going to the Fest this year voted early. That would really take them off guard. I'm certain many politicians expect us to do nothing.
There has pretty much NEVER been a presidential candidate that entirely shares my views. Sadly, it seems that we (the punk rock community) are a minority for the most part, grasping for any kind of hope for a leader that represents us.
If we met in person you'd realize that I'm far from being an elitist or a jerk... quite sarcastic though, yes. But very friendly and helpful to complete strangers. And as much as we both LOVE horror, we'd just have to be friends in person.
I hate talking politics on message boards because it never seems to come across very nice if you have a different viewpoint. I completely avoid this stuff in person with friends.
Let share a drink during Fest 7 and NOT talk politics. Truce?
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gully
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:51 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:28 pmPosts: 2012Location: Massatwoshits
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GatoRanch wrote: gully wrote: GatoRanch wrote: GiveBlood wrote: gully wrote: I'll be the first to say it: Please, don't vote. Now I'm out of the cool kids club  anarchist, apathetic, republican, or just a joke? It was a sad joke. Sorry guys, when you grow up an realize that anarchy isn't so cool afterall, and the only way you can make a positive change for your life is to vote (rather than not voting). Yeah, I once didn't vote or voted a write-in name like "Snoopy" because I didn't like any of my options. And where did it get me? The worst president of all times, a never ending senseless war, and the highest gas prices ever. Think about it. I hate talking politics amongst peers more than anything, but I felt that needed to be said. I'm not here to argue but rather to say something that is against the ignorance that too often seems to accompany the average punk rock mentality. It's nice to be jaded I guess. I voted for John Kerry. And we can all see what I got. Ahhhh, the wonders of the electoral college. If I ever start caring about people who represent me but share none of my interests, I don't want to live anymore. It really bothers me when I go on sites like these where "the punx" are supposed to be and I see negative criticism of other peoples opinions. Almost as if one's saying "how dare you think differently than I?!". So, I don't really need any of your "When You Grow Up" spiel. Elitism and the Fest don't go together. I guess what I'm saying is... if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't. I like you Gato, don't be a jerk. Sorry Josh, this was not a personal attack on you, I apologize that it came across that way. I voted for Kerry too and I'm just saying that not voting isn't going to help either. I feel like I made a mistake not voting all those years, and I'm here to admit that, as an "aging punk"...hehe Just as you found my reply to be negative, I found your "don't vote" remark to be a negative approach. What kind of punk movement would it be to lay down and die and leave our rights in the hands of others, without even giving it our best shot? A positive action on our part would be if all of the THOUSANDS of people going to the Fest this year voted early. That would really take them off guard. I'm certain many politicians expect us to do nothing. There has pretty much NEVER been a presidential candidate that entirely shares my views. Sadly, it seems that we (the punk rock community) are a minority for the most part, grasping for any kind of hope for a leader that represents us. If we met in person you'd realize that I'm far from being an elitist or a jerk... quite sarcastic though, yes. But very friendly and helpful to complete strangers. And as much as we both LOVE horror, we'd just have to be friends in person. I hate talking politics on message boards because it never seems to come across very nice if you have a different viewpoint. I completely avoid this stuff in person with friends. Let share a drink during Fest 7 and NOT talk politics. Truce?
To me, telling people to vote is negative and "lying down". Accepting this as "that's just how it is" or "just how it works". It all depends on how you're looking at it. And that drink will be on me Ms. Jana. There'll be no badblood at the Fest. Not on my watch.
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GatoRanch
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:19 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:16 amPosts: 4092Location: Nature Coast & Gville, FL
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gully wrote: To me, telling people to vote is negative and "lying down". Accepting this as "that's just how it is" or "just how it works". It all depends on how you're looking at it. And that drink will be on me Ms. Jana. There'll be no badblood at the Fest. Not on my watch.
You're right, it's all a matter of viewpoint. I'll see you ar the bar mister.
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gully
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:21 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:28 pmPosts: 2012Location: Massatwoshits
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GatoRanch wrote: gully wrote: To me, telling people to vote is negative and "lying down". Accepting this as "that's just how it is" or "just how it works". It all depends on how you're looking at it. And that drink will be on me Ms. Jana. There'll be no badblood at the Fest. Not on my watch. You're right, it's all a matter of viewpoint. I'll see you ar the bar mister. 
I always wondered what it'd be like makin it with an older woman.
haha jk
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GatoRanch
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:27 pm |
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Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:16 amPosts: 4092Location: Nature Coast & Gville, FL
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gully wrote: GatoRanch wrote: gully wrote: To me, telling people to vote is negative and "lying down". Accepting this as "that's just how it is" or "just how it works". It all depends on how you're looking at it. And that drink will be on me Ms. Jana. There'll be no badblood at the Fest. Not on my watch. You're right, it's all a matter of viewpoint. I'll see you ar the bar mister.  I always wondered what it'd be like makin it with an older woman. haha jk 
HA! You are so not joking.
PS - I voted for you!
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gully
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:32 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:28 pmPosts: 2012Location: Massatwoshits
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GatoRanch wrote: gully wrote: GatoRanch wrote: gully wrote: To me, telling people to vote is negative and "lying down". Accepting this as "that's just how it is" or "just how it works". It all depends on how you're looking at it. And that drink will be on me Ms. Jana. There'll be no badblood at the Fest. Not on my watch. You're right, it's all a matter of viewpoint. I'll see you ar the bar mister.  I always wondered what it'd be like makin it with an older woman. haha jk  HA! You are so not joking. PS - I voted for you! 
I wouldn't be lying if all young men hadn't thought that. haha
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GiveBlood
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:01 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:52 pmPosts: 2441Location: Gainesville, finally
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the only way not voting isn't lying down is if instead you are actively working towards dismantling the government.
funny aside- when i first registered to vote, I jokingly wrote down my party as "anarchist." Hopefully this doesn't mean I now have a file with the FBI somewhere.
when my card came in the mail later, it said "no party affiliation" which is a whole lot better than some friends of mine who wrote down "independent" and got registered as a member of one of the dozens of actual parties with the word "Independent" in their name, which range from fundamentalist Christian parties, to Green Party off-shoots, to offshoots of Ross Perots' Reform Party.
I wanted to vote Nader in 2000, but I chickened out and voted for Al Gore. So don't blame me for GW.
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gully
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:24 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:28 pmPosts: 2012Location: Massatwoshits
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GiveBlood wrote: the only way not voting isn't lying down is if instead you are actively working towards dismantling the government.
funny aside- when i first registered to vote, I jokingly wrote down my party as "anarchist." Hopefully this doesn't mean I now have a file with the FBI somewhere.
when my card came in the mail later, it said "no party affiliation" which is a whole lot better than some friends of mine who wrote down "independent" and got registered as a member of one of the dozens of actual parties with the word "Independent" in their name, which range from fundamentalist Christian parties, to Green Party off-shoots, to offshoots of Ross Perots' Reform Party.
I wanted to vote Nader in 2000, but I chickened out and voted for Al Gore. So don't blame me for GW.
Writing down that your belong to the anarchist party would be a paradox.
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GiveBlood
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:33 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:52 pmPosts: 2441Location: Gainesville, finally
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gully wrote: GiveBlood wrote: the only way not voting isn't lying down is if instead you are actively working towards dismantling the government.
funny aside- when i first registered to vote, I jokingly wrote down my party as "anarchist." Hopefully this doesn't mean I now have a file with the FBI somewhere.
when my card came in the mail later, it said "no party affiliation" which is a whole lot better than some friends of mine who wrote down "independent" and got registered as a member of one of the dozens of actual parties with the word "Independent" in their name, which range from fundamentalist Christian parties, to Green Party off-shoots, to offshoots of Ross Perots' Reform Party.
I wanted to vote Nader in 2000, but I chickened out and voted for Al Gore. So don't blame me for GW. Writing down that your belong to the anarchist party would be a paradox.
jokes.
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GoldenBull
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:44 pm |
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I guess I am lucky I live nearby, I will be waltzing on in to vote with no troubles at all...
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